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- Subject: Re: C or C++ for a 14-year old? The definitive reply
- Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 03:08:46 GMT
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- "Thomas D. Wason" <wason@nando.net> wrote:
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- >felinoid@ccnet.com (Jeffery C McLean) wrote:
- >>Alberto C Moreira (amoreira@nine.com) wrote:
- >>: babycox@aol.com (BabyCox) wrote:
- >>
- >>: >> Also, if you still find DOS confusing, programming isn't for you. I see
- >>: >a lot
- >>: >> of kids who want to learn programming or at least brag about their
- >>: >abilities
- >>: >> with computers, but really these kids are just fat lazy dorks who think
- >>: >there
- >>: >> cool cause they download hacking programs from AOL.
- >>
- >>: >I find this very insulting, I am a 14 year old (not a kid). I learned
- >>: >BASIC, before I was in school, learned Logo in first grade, and am now
- >>: >very proficent C++. I am not lazy, I am not a dork, and I do not see many
- >>: >other teenage programmers that would fit either of thes descriptions, and
- >>: >I don't appreciate people who resort to name calling just to prove a
- >>: >point.
- >>
- >>
- >>: Go, guy! Some grown ups out here actually agree with you.
- >>
- >>When I was 17 a teacher in HiSchool was trying to covence everyone
- >>(Felow students, my parents etc) that I didn't know computers
- >>and that I couldn't posably know computers. Eventualy she showed the truth
- >>is she was JUST learning how to USE a computer and felt a little challanged
- >>by the fact that a student in her class knew more than her.
- >>My mother even presented a fist full of letters from computer experts
- >>a University Prosesor and a congratulations on winning first prise
- >>in our contest letter...
- >> This stuff should be enough to get me a job NOW... but I was 17
- >>and as far as that teacher was conserned no one could know computers
- >>and not be in Colage...
- >> Well things have changed but I still kinda get anoyed when
- >>an adult said kids are just bragging when they talk computer programming.
- >> I am 26 now... Ok I am JUST NOW Learning C... My pore Vic20
- >>didn't do C... It did Basic and ML... so I learned both... and Forth
- >>(Got a Forth language cart later)
- >> I feal kids SHOULD learn programming early....
- >>I also feal thies adults who hold kids away from computers should get
- >>a dose of reality... "Computers stifle creativity"
- >>I don't think ANYONE who knows computers would make THAT clame... That one
- >>comes from artests who rely on "traditional matreals"....
- >>I don't think anyone ever said painting stifles creativity... or music...
- >>computer artests would easly chalange that notion anyway...
- >> Jeff
- >>--
- >>felinoid@ccnet.com
- >>http://www.ccnet.com/~felinoid/
-
- >I presume your poor spelling is a put on. HOWEVER. Programming is not all that hard.
- >I find it a relaxing interlude to real thinking. Program *design* is something else, and I
- >see few who can do it well. I think good program design requires a broader background.
- >That's called an education. Yes, I agree that peoople should be taught how to program as
- >young as they want to learn, but they should realize it is only a tool--often badly used.
- >The language is not all that important--you learn one, you can learn the next. Pick
- >an easy one to start. Students should also be taught how to use a wordprocesser. That does
- >not make them good authors, however.
-
- >--Tom
-
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- > Thomas D. Wason, Ph.D. 1421 Park Drive
- > Human-Computer Interactions Raleigh, North Carolina 27605 USA
- > wason@nando.net 919.834.9842
-
- agreed program design is much more important.
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